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Germanys loss of territory by Arminius1871
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Notice: This map was not created to offend anyone, but to educate and show historical facts,
constructive criticism is always welcome, hate-comments not.

This is a map showing the territories that Germany, and german-speaking territories that Austria lost,
between 1919 and today. For every region you see the name and the date, when it was taken from Germany,
some regions were taken twice after every world war. A short description about the regions:

Federal Republic of Germany: Germany today

Austria: Anschluss forbidden in 1919, the Republic German-Austria containing all ethnical Germans
from Austria-Hungary was forbidden as well. It united with Germany in 1938 and left Germany again
after the downfall of the 3. Reich.

Northern Schleswig: Lost after a referendum in 1919, because most of the residents were danish,
Southern Schleswig was allowed to stay in Germany.

Eupen-Malmedy: Small german communities lost in 1919 and again in 1945.

Alsace-Lorraine (Elsass-Lothringen): Lost in 1919 and again in 1945, around 90% of the residents
are Germans, Metz and the region around was always french.

South Tyrol (Südtirol): Lost 1919 and never reunited with the rest of Tyrol. Even tho Italy tried
to erase everything German there, still 70% of the residents are Germans today.

Kanaltal, South Styria (Südsteiermark), Ödenburg etc.: Smaller german regions around Austria
claimed for German-Austria, but not allowed by the allied. Most of the Germans there were
expelled, left because of bad conditions or were assimilated.

Sudetenland: Claimed by German-Austria, but forbidden by the allied. United with Germany in 1938,
lost after 1945. 99% of the Germans killed or expelled.

West Prussia (Westpreußen), Posen, Danzig: Lost in 1919 and again in 1945. Posen was mainly settled
by Poles, West-Prussia was mixed and created the so called corridor, one of many reasons that leaded
to a war with Poland.

East-Prussia (Ostpreußen): Separated from the german mainland in 1919, lost in 1945, all Germans were killed or expelled.

Pommerania (Pommern), East Brandenburg and Silesia (Schlesien): Lost in 1945, nearly all Germans were killed or expelled.

Upper-Silesia (Oberschlesien): Lost 1922 and again 1945, nearly all Germans killed or expelled.

Not included: Language islands, that were spread all over East Europe, states that identified in former centuries as Germans, such as Luxemburg, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, the Netherlands, parts of Belgium.

I didn´t mention the Saarland and partition of Germany into 4 zones in that map, too.

For more information, check:

Treaty of Versailles:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_o…

Potsdam conference:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_…

Jalta conference:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Co…

Expulsion of the Germans:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_a…
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:iconpardos66:
pardos66 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
sehr gut
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Gukpard Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Can you make the ultimate greater germany map?
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2015
What exactly do u have in mind, I made once this one:

Grossdeutschland by Arminius1871
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Gukpard Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Almost like this one, but with some minor changes, give the French alsace Lorraine to germany: www.biblesearchers.com/hebrewc… The kaiser planned to annex it in world war one, give independence to moravia :P they are slavs and Give Estonia and lat.... I mean, Esthonia, Livonia and Kurland to Germany, after soviet Russia surrendered in 1917 the united baltic duchy was created, Wilhelm II plan was to send waves and waves of colonists in that area and integrate the baltics into germany until 1940, you can see a map of the duchy here: images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__c…

There are two last territories, Gotland, that was part of the teutonic order and Gothland, know today as Crimea, during world war II that place was going to be annexed into germany as part of the general plan ost, but the idea of a german Gothland came from the mid 19th century, even wilhelm planned to do that, but he scraped the idea after Ukraine fell into the austrian sphere of influence because of the treaty of brest litovsky

So, this is the most perfect Greater Germany possible, the worst part is that almost happened if wasn't for the defeat in 1918
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2016
I´m sorry I reply so late I was too busy XD

That could indeed work when they were annexed politically,
but then so many other ethnicities would be in the Reich.
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Gukpard Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, that's why it was called GrossDeutsche Reich :3
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2016
Ah too big for me :P
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Gukpard Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
ok :C
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:iconpardos66:
pardos66 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Very nice historical of the Fatherland of Germany.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2015
There is a much better newer map I made about it:

arminius1871.deviantart.com/ar…
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:iconpardos66:
pardos66 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I put that one in my group.
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015
Thx man!
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:iconpardos66:
pardos66 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
np
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Greavyard Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2015
Old was better!
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2015
The old version?
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:icongreavyard:
Greavyard Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2015
More detailed, shows the cities, shows the divisions (Saarland, DDR, BRD), informs the time each area was lost.... way better.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2015
Yeah thanks^^
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Assyrianic Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
better than what happened to Assyrians and Assyria...

Assyria was so marginalized that 95% of it is now claimed by Kurdistan and Iraq....
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2015
Indeed these region had a similar fate like Germany, in the center sorrounded
by many other peoples and many border changes.
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Sapristi45 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2015  Hobbyist
Poor Germany, surrounded by so many countries who want more territories :P
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2015
That´s the proble being in the center XD
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:iconsapristi45:
Sapristi45 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2015  Hobbyist
But it's still a big country^^
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2015
Could be better XD
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Sapristi45 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2015  Hobbyist
oh c'mon it's not lichtenstein X)
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bartpaaddiator Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2015
Silesia remembers its heritage. We are not German, but not Polish either, history is not black and white after all. But it was Germany that created the Silesian heavy industry and it has to be noted.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2015
Maybe Silesia can become an independant land and
connect both, polish and german culture that existed
there?
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NSLC Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2015
Schleswig-Holstein was a Danish duchy before the Prussians stole it during the war in 1864 against Denmark, Holstein was German speaking but Schleswig was mixed Danish German. and both had been linked to Denmark long before there was something called germany.
Therefore, it is wrong to say that Germany lost Southern Jutland by the referendum in 1920, when there have been Danish dominated for more than 400 years and only under Prussian supremacy in 56 years.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2015
The current border is more or less perfect I´d say,
there is nothing to get back.

But only because Danes ruled over Germans a long time,
doesn´t mean these Germans had no right to join the unification
of their real fatherland.
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jedi00j Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2015
Es ist wahrlich eine Schande, was uns weggenommen wurde. Deutschland bestand mal zu einem großen Teil aus Preußen, jetzt gehört ein großer Teil Preußens den Polen und das nur, weil Stalin unbedingt die Ostländer neu aufteilen wollte, um Russland zu vergrößern. Gebt uns Preußen zurück!
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2015
Da hast du recht, allerdings habe ich natürlich keinen Hass gegen die normalen
Polen, die können wenig dafür. Leider können wir die Gebiete auch kaum zurückfordern,
wir hätten nicht mal genug Menschen, die dort hinziehen könnten und die jetzigen Polen
zu vertreiben würde wahrsch. sofort Krieg bedeuten.
Aber zumindest möchte ich, dass man auch darüber lernt, und sie Respekt erhalten.
In Ungarn sind sie damit am weitesten, sie haben viele Denkmäler gebaut, sich entschuldigt
und heißen alle Deutschen wieder willkommen. Wirklich wundervolle Menschen.
In Polen ist es so 50/ 50 und den größten Hass hab ich von Tschechen erfahren,
den die hatten ja im Vergleich zu anderen kaum Verbrechen erlitten im Krieg
und haben aus purem Hass die Sudetendeutschen vertrieben, von wo auch ich Vorfahren habe.
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jedi00j Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2015
Ich stimme dir voll und ganz zu. Was geschehen ist, lässt sich nicht mehr ungeschehen machen. So sehr ich mich auch danach sehne, Preußen wieder komplett Deutsch zu machen, wäre das wohl mittlerweile ein Unrecht, weil man damit die Polen, die das Land nun ihre Heimat nennen, von dort vertreiben müsste.
Nach dem 1. Weltkrieg stand es nicht gut um uns und die Weimarer Republik hat alles nur noch schlimmer gemacht, aber das 3. Reich hat dann letztendlich unsere Exekution unterschrieben. Im Jahre 1933 ist meiner Meinung nach das Deutsche Reich, auf das ich stolz bin untergegangen. Am Besten wäre es gewesen, hätten wir uns nie in den Konflikt Österreichs eingemischt und somit zumindest versucht, den 1. Weltkrieg aufzuhalten. Dann wären wir das stolze Deutsche Kaiserreich geblieben, das wir vor bis fast 100 Jahre (bis 1918) waren.
Die Weimarer Republik hat versucht, das, was unter dem Joch des Versailler Vertrag noch zu retten war, noch zu retten, hat im Endeffekt aber leider auch nur die NSDAP an die Macht gebracht. Hätte sich die Weimarer Republik damals etwas gegen die militärischen Auflagen versucht zu wehren, hätte vielleicht die Reichswehr die NSDAP nicht so unterstützt (Vor Allem Hindenburg, der als ehemaliger Militär der OHL natürlich Hitler mit offenen Armen empfing).
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2015
Es gibt eine winzige Hoffnung, die Russen die in dem jetzigen
Mini-Ostpreußen leben, wollen die preußische Kultur dort wieder
aufleben lassen, die Altstadt wieder aufbauen, die Stadt umbenennen...
Aber es wird dann wohl eher ein 4. baltischer Staat, als dass es zu uns
zurückkehrt.
Theoretisch könnte man Preußen aber in Brandenburg+Berlin wieder
errichten, was ja eh die Kernprovinz Preußens war.

Also ich hab mal den bestseller von Herr Clark "Die Schlafwandler" gelesen,
zum 1. Weltkrieg. Seiner Meinung nach, hätten wir den 1. Weltkrieg kaum
verhindern können.

Denn 1. Wollte Frankreich seit 1871 Rache, Elsass-Lothringen und hat dementsprechend
über Jahrzehnte alle Großmächte gegen Deutschland aufgehetzt.
2. Russland wollte die Meerengen bei Konstantinopel, denen ging es auch nicht um
die Rettung der Slawen, Serbien war nur Mittel zum Zweck, Bulgarien z.B. haben
sie sich sogar zum Feind gemacht.
3. England ist einfach auf die Seite gegangen, von der sie sich am meisten erhofft haben.

Man hat also eh schon daran gearbeitet das dominierende Deutschland zu zerschlagen.
Der Blankoscheck an Österreich sollte den Krieg ja verhindern, sie dachten die anderen
Mächte wollen keinen Großkrieg wegen so einem unwichtigen Land wie Serbien riskieren.
Dabei haben sie schon lange einen großen Krieg gewollt und geplant, sie brauchten nur
einen guten Grund.

Und das Versailler Diktat war ja die direkte Saat für den nächsten Krieg.

Du scheinst sehr geschichtlich interessiert zu sein, hättest du Lust in Skype oder einem
neuen Forum mitzureden? Wenn ja, schreib mir eine PN :)
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SpecDragonfly Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wobei aber die Verteilung der deutschen Bevölkerung in den Ostgebieten für die Errichtung eines kompakten Nationalitätenstaates alles andere als günstig war. Wenn man sich ethnografische Landkarten, auch von vor 1914, anschaut, erkennt man, dass viele Gebiete in Westpreußen und Posen überwiegend von Polen bevölkert waren, ein deutscher Nationalitätenstaat also wie 1937 einen Weichselkorridor haben müsste, der leider, besonders in einem Szenario ohne Grenzabkommen/ mit politisch gespaltenem Europa äußert unpraktisch wäre.
Abgesehen davon glaube ich auch, dass Deutschland im falle eines nicht stattfindenden Ersten Weltkrieges so wie Großbritannien einen Demokratisierungsprozess durchlaufen hätte und heute eine konstitutionelle  Monarchie sein würde (In meinem Traumszenario nähern sich Frankreich und Deutschland übrigens wieder aneinander an und Elsaß-Lothringen wird zu einem multinationalen, unabhängigen, relativ neutralen Übergangsstaat, so wie Belgien).
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015
Hallo!

Ja der Osten war sehr "ausgefranst" mit vielen Sprachinseln. Aber da gäbe es eine ganz einfache
Lösung. Über ganz POlen und Osteuropa verteilt lebten ja Deutsche (sogar in Weißrussland, der Ukraine
und bis zu 500.000 in Jugoslawien!). Würde man einfach einen Bevölkerungsaustausch machen um eine
harte Siedlungsgrenze zu erreichen wäre es möglich. Die Deutschen in Polen usw. ziehen also nach
Posen, Westpreußen, Oberschlesien usw. und die Polen von dort in die deutschen Wohnungen in Polen.
Soetwas haben Türken und Griechen bereits einmal vollzogen.
Allerdings sehen manche dieses Verfahren auch als unmoralisch an.

Das stimmt, Deutschland hätte sich so oder so reformiert, aber sanft und nicht gewaltsam durch 2 Weltkriege.
Technologisch waren wir eh weltweit führend, das Internet in den 70er oder 80er Jahren hätte die Völker
wohl auch recht früh verbunden, so wie heute. Auch eine deutsche Mondlandung spätestens in den 50ern
hätte man erwartet und Babelsberg wäre was jetzt Hollywood ist, das Zentrum des westlichen Films.
Ich stell mir immer die deutsche Version von Star Wars (Sternenreich) vor, bei dem das edle Sternenreich
gegen die verräterischen Republikaner bestehen muss XD
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Sergios117 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2015
God damn it Stalin, revenge was what defined him. The move was stupid and heartless on his part. He should have kept the Eastern lands all Prussian rather than annexing East Prussia into the USSR and giving significant land to Poland, a country that doesn't even like Russia.

Imagine how much more powerful the GDR (or PDR if renamed) would have been and helped the Eastern Bloc, but no. Stalin had to be an ass. 

Although interestingly, Stalin's foreign policy was based on Imperial Russian convictions and reclaiming its territories rather than spreading communism in Europe. Ironic because that pleb was Georgian. :P

And the west fucked over Germany as well yeah. Interestingly, the British and French colonial atrocities that spanned hundreds of years surpass whatever the Germans did and their fuckery can still be felt today in their former colonies.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2015
Lol communism is so full of lies, they say they act against imperialists,
and what is the first thing he does after victory? Imperialism!

Yeah the GDR could be rather strong, it was anyway one of the best in
the block.
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Greavyard Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2015
the United Socialist Sovietic Republics is as communist as a pig is a pigeon
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2015
Really?
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Sergios117 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2015
I'd say Stalin was full of lies rather than the communism itself (because Stalin killed all the old Bolsheviks), but HE CALLED HIMSELF THE FUCKING RED TSAR. Psychopath.

And East Germany was best Warsaw Pact nation. (Best Germany was Kaiserreich hands down followed by Prussia under Frederik the great). :D

Also, do people really forget that the French and British were even worse when they managed their empires? Centuries of violence that people forget.
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LoreC10 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2015
i think that the best Europe, strictly as for the geographical asset (no political), was between the two wars, Germany and many other countries were in the right shape and Europe was well balanced ^^ 
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2015
Mh sorry I don´t agree, the imperial age before the 1. world war was the best in my opinion^^
However I have no problem when Italy gets extra Trentino and Triest from Austria.
Austria-Hungary was in my opinion a very great state construction and on the best way to
become a mini EU, too, and Germany lost way too many regions after ww 1. of which many
were even in majority german.
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LoreC10 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2015
oh come on, i mean, of course you prefer when germany is bigger and you like austria-hungary because german was the dominating culture, but just try to see the bigger picture with a neutral eye, interwar Europe was much more equilibrated, Germany size was still no bad, even if some germans were excluded (or you prefer today size!? ^^), plus the austrian-hungarian empire was hated by everyone excluse for Austrians and, partially, Hungarians, i don't really see how it could become a mini EU :( (Sad) 
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2015
Hahaha XD Niemals, remove interwar borders! XD

I don´t care for Austria-Hungary actually, they should´ve merged with us :P
The german part. Lol ofc, everything is better than now, but 1871 borders is
even much better XD

U r only greedy for Tirol, remove Lore! XD But hey Trentino is fully yours in my opinion,
Südtirol nah! :P
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LoreC10 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2015
Mmm, still i think interwar was the best, anyway

ALTO ADIGE IST ITALIEN!!!! XD
(seriously)
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B4LD3R Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
bravo, diglielo!! (devo fare la parte del classico tizio che reincara la dose) XD
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LoreC10 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015
Ahah, che perfidi, comunque seriamente l'europa era meglio nel periodo interbellico!! :P
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B4LD3R Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Se fascismo e nazismo non avessero intrapreso guerre d'espansione non avrebbero oggi ancora meno di quello che avevano allora
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Al3ssio97 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2015
South Tirol is Italian :) Anyway we protect the minoranze of germans, and South Tirol with Sardinia, Sicily, Valle d'Aoste and Friuli is one of the region at special statute 
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LoreC10 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2015
Not totally Italian, culturally speaking, but South Tyrol is, was, and always will be Italy, geographically speaking, so it stays in the Italian Republic, whatever Germans (Austrians, depending on how you considerate them) still should be protected, on the other hand Istria should be Italian too :D (Big Grin) 
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Al3ssio97 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2015
Yess, with Dalmatia :) 
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