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Alternate History Germany by Arminius1871 Alternate History Germany by Arminius1871
Notice: This is just alternate history (entertainment), the map was not created to offend anyone.

Well here you see an alternate Germany just for fun, the background story is shortly said:

Germany allied in the great war with Russia anc crushed Austria-Hungary, which got support from France, Britain and Italy.
But it lost and so Germany annexed the german parts. Because of many national movements and revolutions they left the
non-german countries to freedom, such as Czechia.
The war with France and Britain in the west costed a lot of blood and so both sides agreed in a war without winners.
But Germany wanted to get controll of the Benelux states which was not acceptable for France. So after some time
they agreed in making a completely new western border along the french-germanic language-border.
Also Switzerland was divided between the 3 bordering ethnics.

Information:

German Empire
(also called Germany or Greater Germany)

God (be) with us

Capital: Berlin
Area: 757.839 m²
Residents: 146,8 million
Founded: 1922

Languages: German, Dutch, Danish, Polish

imperial office for statistics and cartography


On the map I added the most important cities for economical or cultural reasons.
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YamaLama1986 Featured By Owner Edited Dec 15, 2014   Digital Artist
How close is Dutch to northwestern German dialects?

P.S. I find it hilarious that for some reason English people decided to call the Nederlandse "Dutch" and the Deutsch "Germans". Did some English guy mix up the Deutsch with the Nederlandse? XD

By any logical reason it makes a million times more sense that English speakers would call the Deutsch "Dutch" and Deutschland "Dutchland".
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very close, the Frisians in Germany bordering the frisians in the Netherlands speak nearly exactly
the same dialect, and there is a dialect continuum among the bordering regions. But the difference is
that the German dialects start to die out, while the dutch transformed their german dialect into a language.

That has historical reasons^^ Historically, Germany was always called Germany/ Germania/ Germanien.
Also in the latin texts we always got that name by our monks.

But, the Germans started to separate themselves from the romanic speaking peoples in the 1. Reich,
where Germans lived together with French and Italians in a state.

So they said Germany, this is the region where they don´t speak romanic, but in the language of the normal folk.
And that is what Deutsch means, folk/ the people coming from old high german thiudisk.

And slowly the old name disappeared, while the Germans started to call themselves Deutsche and the land Deutschland.
And since the Dutch are actually Germans, but left the 1. Reich in 1648, and many moved to Amerika, it seems the english speaking
nations started to call only them dutch, and never stopped calling the Germans, Germans.

Wow that´s really complicated I know XD

Btw. Germany is the country with the most different names in other languages XD

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of…
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Kaampper Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Thats Correct, 

They call the Dutch (deutsch) like that because we were the only (major) germanic nations who colonised the world because germany hardly had any big harbours or a big navy besided they were constantly fighting amongst other german states/sweden/denmark.

So the dutch colonized the world and thats how we got our nickname, also we are called "The Netherlands" instead of Netherland because  around our colonizing Golden Era we called ourselves the Republic of the United Netherlands.  because then we were still states combined before we actually seperated from germany. 

ah man, how much i long for a Germanic Reich again. but this time in Peace not by Force. With England and Sweden/Norway/Denmark. + the original post.

also: why isn't  Bohemia in this map ?
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes silly Germany wasn´t united in colonial times and missed a huge chance because of that :/

But I respect the great people from the netherlands for having so many colonies!
And you could even establish a real nation in south africa with colonists :)

Oh I didn´t Bohemia, so mostly ethnical Germans are inside these borders.
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Kaampper Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  New member Hobbyist General Artist
ah okay i always thought Bohemia was an German Reich Electorate so technically german?
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ha it´s funny, Böhmen (Bohemia) was since over 1000 years part of the German Reich,
and heavily influenced, the one building the cathedral there also did the one of Cologne,
and the architecture style is very german everywhere, also in Prague lived always Germans
in the part where the castle is.
But indeed 2/3 of the land was always settled by slavic Czechs and they were not germanized,
unlike other regions like Silesia (Schlesien).
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Kaampper Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  New member Hobbyist General Artist
ah oke, nice to know :)

danke meine freund. Heil Arminius!
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bitteschön :)

Does Kaampper mean Kämpfer (warrior)?
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f1nalstand Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2014
Awesome map! One could only wish that this was OTL, XD. But is Brünn in the Reich? Also how do you make such great maps like these? Do you use photoshop? And are there any good(clear) tutorials? (sorry for all the questions)
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks a lot! I did not include Brünn, because it´s a language island,
but they must be protected or wouldn´t have been released to Bohemia^^

Yes I have the newest Photoshop, actually you have everything u need there.
I saw tutorial on psd-tutorials.com or in Youtube.

But if you have questions or need help, you can always write me. The best would
be a personal message. There are some tools to make such clean maps.
I´m surely not a pro, but at least I know how to make such maps^^

Have a nice eve!
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f1nalstand Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014
Awesome! Have a nice eve, too!
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Dietser Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014
It's a same Germany lost so much of its language territories ;( .
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed Germany had to bleed a lot in the last two world wars :(
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Sebistara Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Na endlich, heim ins Reich. :'D
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nur was ins Reich gehört, aber nicht mehr, das wäre böse XD
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ImperialKuatSystems Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Naja, die Niederlande und Flandern ist doch ein wenig unrealistisch.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Stimmt ist eher idealistisch als realistisch.
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:iconimperialkuatsystems:
ImperialKuatSystems Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Wegen des germanischen Stammes oder gibt es andere Gründe?
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So ungefähr, ich wollte dass alle Kontinentalgermanen geeint sind und es eine perfekte Grenze
zwischen dem germanischen deutschen Reich und dem galloromanischen Frankreich an der Sprachgrenze
gibt. Die Niederländer sind ja nur durch eine Fehlentwicklung der Geschichte aus dem Reich ausgeschert und
haben nicht Hochdeutsch genauso vorangetrieben, wie z.B. die Schweizer, die auch 1648 ausgeschert sind.
Schade eigentlich.
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ImperialKuatSystems Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Ach so! Zählen die Dänen dann nicht auch zu der germanischen Sprachfamilie?
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Doch aber zu den Nordgermanen, schau mal:

Three Germanic Groups by Arminius1871
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Sebistara Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bast scho'. ^^
"Rock n Roll aint noise Pollution, Rock n Roll s'just Rock n Roll, yeah." - Walter von der Vogelweide
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Take some Reich n Roll!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bea07…
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Sebistara Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Sebistara Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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No1re Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
There would ve been quite a few Sorbs and Czechs in this rajch.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes you´re right!
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It may not be intended to offend anyone but it will offend idiots.
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sadly god didn´t let rain enough brain XD
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eadorimthryth Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
why isn't Friesian not one of the languages?
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It´s just a dialect for me sorry XD
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paul1820 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Professional Artisan Crafter
the correct history...bravoClap La la la la 
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hehe^^
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TheKonijn24 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
the netherlands again? :/
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love the Netherlands XD Don´t worry they´re still an own kingdom,
just part of the richest economy in the world at that time.
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TheKonijn24 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
okay own kingdom, yet it would be too much hassle.
Flanders want independence, and The Netherlands...
You do not want that within your borders :)
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh I hope there would be no hassle after some time :/
Hahaha, and if the Reich makes enough propaganda combined
with an enormous growth of wealth? XD

Btw. I´m not sure, was there never a movement in the nationalistic
19th century in the Netherlands, that claimed a germanic unification?
There were such movements in Austria, Switzerland and Germany.
But in your country? Anything similar?
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TheKonijn24 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Luxembourg when it still belonged to Netherlands, and Limburg was part of the German federation, but the Netherlands don't like that... After the Austro-Prussian war, they were very afraid for annexation, but it could have happend.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Did you know that Denmark offered Prussia 3 times after they lost in 1864,
to unite Denmark with Prussia? The king knew, that the big times of Denmark
were over, and he wanted to be part of the new Prussia. But Prussia said no,
else France would´ve been pissed off and maybe also other Europeans.
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TheKonijn24 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know this because I've read about bismarck a book of 400 pages I find the topic interesting germany 1815-1932
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh cool, lol in Bismarcks youth time he drank a lot I saw in a documentation XD
In that time he had not much discipline, he became awesome when he was older^^

And can u imagine, that this is Bismarck oO:

picture.yatego.com/images/4cdc…
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someone1fy Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
To Polanders, it must be sucks. But I'm not a Pole, so fine to me.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hahaha XD
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someone1fy Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
^^
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Disstrack Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
Hast wieder mal ne schöne Karte erstellt

zählst du Dünkirchen als germanischsprachig oder als französisches gebiet?
(ich glaub ich kenne die Antwort aber ich frag trotzdem mal :D)
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eigentlich ist es ein germanisches Gebiet, aber es wurde friedlich und nicht erzwungen
gallisiert, sehr schwer zu sagen also...habs aber mal dazugenommen, weil es so bei meiner Vorlage auch war^^

Danke :)
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Disstrack Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
Genau das dachte ich mir :D
Ich würde es auch ehr zum germanischen Gebiet zählen gerade 1922 war noch ein großteil flämischsprachig.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ja, man muss aber immer vorsichtig sein um hier auf DA niemanden zu beleidigen,
jeder Patriot oder Nationlist hier verteidigt sein Land bis aufs Blut XD Wobei ich
auch sehr positive Erfahrungen gemacht habe. Außerdem die Bilder sind doch nur
Unterhaltung, die lösen sicher keine Revolution aus XD
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